Usually when somebody gets fired, they don't get an extra bonus from the company they never even worked at. And he was granted a bunch of Twitter stock. It's California, it's at-will employment. Well, I shouldn't talk about his financial situation, but … we gave Noah a shot and it didn't work out and he was fired. Well, I know some things about Noah Glass that other people don't know – in that he's actually very successful. You could chalk it up to my optimism.ĭo you have any regrets about the way Noah Glass (the fourth member of the team, who has been called "the forgotten founder") was treated? And if it did happen, I definitely didn't see it. I'm good friends with Jack and he's a sweet person and I couldn't imagine him doing something like that. We had Jack saying he couldn't stand it and wanted to be a tailor and I was like, we can't have this. I thought Evan fired Noah because he was acting all crazy and stuff. I read the first part of the book, where Jack secretly got Noah fired – that was a shock to me. In Bilton's book, Jack Dorsey comes off pretty badly … I don't think people have the energy to go out of their way to be like the Count of Monte Cristo and plot revenge for years. And some people's ideas were so different they ended up violently interacting. My theory is that everyone was trying to do what they thought was best for the company. Are you saying you couldn't remember any of it? Hatching Twitter is crammed with backstabbing. If I were an astrophysicist, I would say that those are the kind of things that planets are born from. I was never upset – I thought we were engaged in brainstorming. I wish that Nick Bilton's book had come out before mine so I could have gotten the specifics. Were you not tempted to include any of the arguments between the four co-founders in the book? "Shall I leave the door open or closed?" "Yes." What is that? I never did find out what he prefers in his meetings. Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey Photograph: ZUMA Wire Service / Alamy/Alamy His response both times was "yes", so Evan decided to close it halfway. You tell a story of your tricky first meeting at Facebook HQ, when Evan asked Zuckerberg twice if he wanted the door open or closed. If we got together, he wouldn't laugh at any of my jokes and I probably wouldn't understand what he was talking about – and we would just sort of be uncomfortable for a couple of hours. My default if I get nervous is to just joke around and he's so serious. The only exception seems to be Mark Zuckerberg. You're very nice about everyone in the book. I was really proud when that Prism stuff came out – there was a New York Times article and it had one little sentence: "Twitter declined to make it easier for the government." I tweeted that sentence. But he also exposed important truths that people should probably know.
He broke the law, which in some people's mind would make him a villain.
Is there an in-between? I haven't categorised him yet in my mind. Twitter founders Biz Stone, right, and Evan Williams at their office in San Francisco. It's a website about nothing." And me, being in my, like, hallucinogenically-optimistic state, thought, well that's great! Seinfeld – that's a hit show! What's your favourite compliment or insult that's ever been paid to Twitter?Įarly on, when everyone was talking about how useless and trivial it was, somebody wrote: "Twitter is the Seinfeld of the internet. He said: "Biz, you can't really think that everybody likes you, can you?" And I said: "I've been operating under that assumption for a long time." What's ridiculous is that, a year and a half ago, I was talking to an executive coach who shook my whole understanding of myself.
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Most of my Twitter feed is full of people who are saying: "This book is inspirational." And then there are some people who read it as I'm a jerk. One reviewer of your book wrote: "I wanted to hate this smug, obscenely-rich vegan do-gooder, but I concluded by thinking success couldn't have happened to a nicer guy." Is that a difficult path to tread?
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It made me feel free to go up to teachers and say things like: "I have a no homework policy, here's how it's gonna go." I decided one day that I was going to be nice all the time and see if that got me anywhere. In my case, you gain notoriety, knowledge, friends. "You can be successful and also be nice at the same time" is kind of the gist of my book.
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